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<p>You've put it wrong way. Neither he was thining that Saul and Walt poisoned Brock with ricin nor he knew Brock got sick from Walt's plant. He knew he got sick from plant, that part is right, but he didn't know about Walt's involvment and when he figured about ricin cigarette he understood he was manipulated by Walt all along and that's what enraged him.
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<p>Yes. This is season 2. Every few month someone asks this same question over and over again.
</p><p>Barakula, here you will find your answer:
</p><p>http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:12521
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<div class="quote">MayonnEgg wrote:
<div class="quote">Mholclajtner wrote: <p>Yeah. Brian Cranston himself described ending as "without redemption" but Walt on the end get some kind of redemption. Or at least, only kind of redemption he could get in his situation. So, either ending was poorly discribed or it was deliberate misslead or it was changed, as Cr8meone described. </p> </div>I wouldn't say that Walt was redeemed at all. He tied up loose ends, but he didn't change the way anyone he cared about felt about him, especially with Walter Jr. In the end, he died with the only thing he had left- his meth. </div> <p>If you put it that way, yes. But, people doesn't really change the way they feel about other people. And he used Schwartz's negative feelings to manipulate they to do only thing he really cared from the beginning: to provide for his family. And, if you really think about it, he did manipuate Skyler one last time, by lying her that he spent all his money and admitting he did it all just for himself. </p><p>He tricked all of them like kids and did everything he wanted from the start. He redeemed himself in front of himself because he still preserved in his mind his fantasy he did it for greater good of his family and died peacefully. </p>
<div class="quote">Mholclajtner wrote: <p>Yeah. Brian Cranston himself described ending as "without redemption" but Walt on the end get some kind of redemption. Or at least, only kind of redemption he could get in his situation. So, either ending was poorly discribed or it was deliberate misslead or it was changed, as Cr8meone described. </p> </div>I wouldn't say that Walt was redeemed at all. He tied up loose ends, but he didn't change the way anyone he cared about felt about him, especially with Walter Jr. In the end, he died with the only thing he had left- his meth. </div> <p>If you put it that way, yes. But, people doesn't really change the way they feel about other people. And he used Schwartz's negative feelings to manipulate they to do only thing he really cared from the beginning: to provide for his family. And, if you really think about it, he did manipuate Skyler one last time, by lying her that he spent all his money and admitting he did it all just for himself. </p><p>He tricked all of them like kids and did everything he wanted from the start. He redeemed himself in front of himself because he still preserved in his mind his fantasy he did it for greater good of his family and died peacefully. </p>
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<p>Hey guys, can you forward those to my email too? Thanks in advance! :)
</p><p>dilandog@gmail.com
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<div class="quote">Tervor wrote:
I was pleased with the finale, but I think Jesse driving away at the end runs contrary to this notion of a "resolute ending." To be clear, I don't quite think it matters what happened to him after that, but I do feel misled by the descriptions of the end we heard from the writers.</div> <p>Yeah. Brian Cranston himself described ending as "without redemption" but Walt on the end get some kind of redemption. Or at least, only kind of redemption he could get in his situation. So, either ending was poorly discribed or it was deliberate misslead or it was changed, as Cr8meone described. </p>
I was pleased with the finale, but I think Jesse driving away at the end runs contrary to this notion of a "resolute ending." To be clear, I don't quite think it matters what happened to him after that, but I do feel misled by the descriptions of the end we heard from the writers.</div> <p>Yeah. Brian Cranston himself described ending as "without redemption" but Walt on the end get some kind of redemption. Or at least, only kind of redemption he could get in his situation. So, either ending was poorly discribed or it was deliberate misslead or it was changed, as Cr8meone described. </p>
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<div class="quote">Chanman001 wrote:
Gus would have killed Walt, his family and even Jesse after he got another lab guy to learn the recipe. Gus was ruthless and would never leave any loose ends or liabilities for long. Walt knew this. Maybe a case of takes one to know one. <p>Remember when Jesse asked Gus to let Walt go in Mexico, and Gus said, "You know that won't work." He would do them both eventually + anyone else that knew. </p> </div> <p>Yeah, Gus and Walt were same that way: they both never left loose ends. Walt found his match in Gus, all other main villans before him were way under his league. So, Gus became loose end to Walt as much as Walt became to him. It was just a matter of time and question who will be faster. Only advantage Walt has ove Gus is that Gus needed him but he didn't need Gus anymore. </p>
Gus would have killed Walt, his family and even Jesse after he got another lab guy to learn the recipe. Gus was ruthless and would never leave any loose ends or liabilities for long. Walt knew this. Maybe a case of takes one to know one. <p>Remember when Jesse asked Gus to let Walt go in Mexico, and Gus said, "You know that won't work." He would do them both eventually + anyone else that knew. </p> </div> <p>Yeah, Gus and Walt were same that way: they both never left loose ends. Walt found his match in Gus, all other main villans before him were way under his league. So, Gus became loose end to Walt as much as Walt became to him. It was just a matter of time and question who will be faster. Only advantage Walt has ove Gus is that Gus needed him but he didn't need Gus anymore. </p>
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<div class="quote">Tejota30 wrote:
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Nope. Problem was in J.J. Abrams original end to the prequel. Both Lindeloff and Cuse claimed that they've kept that original end, when it was just end to prequel, instead make their own ending which was more logical thing to do because story overgrow that prequel years ago. They've should drop J.J. Abrams ideas and think of something new, instead ruining the show.</div>The only thing that was said to be known about the ending of Lost was that it ended with Jack's eye closing in the forest where he started according to Fox himself. Not gonna search out the article cause this is a Breaking Bad page and Lostpedia can answer all this. It's also been reported that the Jack character was suppose to die in the pilot originally at the end with Kate becoming the leader so there were obviously a lot of ideas flying around at the early parts of making the show...but and answers, explantions, time travel, MIB vs Jacob facts...all Damon and Carlton.
</div> <p>No, there is lot more then that. Damon always praised about that ending and that series was always concepted around that pilot. First, they made it Lost as self contained with that pilot, because they didn't know there would be more. Pilot was like a movie. Then, they expanded it onto Season 1. Then, on season 2. They where always just expanded it around that same ending where everyone were dead and in purgatory and everything else they add to the story (hatch, others, time travels, man in black...) everything ended the same no matter where story go around. </p>
<div class="quote">Mholclajtner wrote:
Nope. Problem was in J.J. Abrams original end to the prequel. Both Lindeloff and Cuse claimed that they've kept that original end, when it was just end to prequel, instead make their own ending which was more logical thing to do because story overgrow that prequel years ago. They've should drop J.J. Abrams ideas and think of something new, instead ruining the show.</div>The only thing that was said to be known about the ending of Lost was that it ended with Jack's eye closing in the forest where he started according to Fox himself. Not gonna search out the article cause this is a Breaking Bad page and Lostpedia can answer all this. It's also been reported that the Jack character was suppose to die in the pilot originally at the end with Kate becoming the leader so there were obviously a lot of ideas flying around at the early parts of making the show...but and answers, explantions, time travel, MIB vs Jacob facts...all Damon and Carlton.
</div> <p>No, there is lot more then that. Damon always praised about that ending and that series was always concepted around that pilot. First, they made it Lost as self contained with that pilot, because they didn't know there would be more. Pilot was like a movie. Then, they expanded it onto Season 1. Then, on season 2. They where always just expanded it around that same ending where everyone were dead and in purgatory and everything else they add to the story (hatch, others, time travels, man in black...) everything ended the same no matter where story go around. </p>
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<div class="quote">Max ba wrote:
75 Million reasons why Lydia and Walt may survive: <p>http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/mipcom-katzenberg-offered-to-pay-75-million-for-three-extra-breaking-bad-episodes-1200708639/ </p> </div> <p>"However, this was before Katzenberg knew where the “Breaking Bad” creative team were taking the storyline, which meant his idea was a non-starter." </p>
75 Million reasons why Lydia and Walt may survive: <p>http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/mipcom-katzenberg-offered-to-pay-75-million-for-three-extra-breaking-bad-episodes-1200708639/ </p> </div> <p>"However, this was before Katzenberg knew where the “Breaking Bad” creative team were taking the storyline, which meant his idea was a non-starter." </p>
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<p>Nope. Problem was in J.J. Abrams original end to the prequel. Both Lindeloff and Cuse claimed that they've kept that original end, when it was just end to prequel, instead make their own ending which was more logical thing to do because story overgrow that prequel years ago. They've should drop J.J. Abrams ideas and think of something new, instead ruining the show.
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<div class="quote">Cr8meone wrote:
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During the show Walt always eliminated all who became threat to him or his familly. If Gus killed Hank his familly would be destroyed because Skyler would never forgive Walt that. It would be same for Skyler if Gus killed Hank or nazis. It's all Walt killing Hank for her.</div>How would Gus killing the Nazis be a bad thing? and Walt did not kill Hank, Jack did. </div> <p>I mean it's same for Skyler if Hank was killed by Gus or nazis, from her point of view it's Walt who killed him. Yes, Walt did not kill Hank, Jack did, but Skyler or Walt Jr still blame Walt. Have you watched end of the show? </p>
<div class="quote">Mholclajtner wrote:
During the show Walt always eliminated all who became threat to him or his familly. If Gus killed Hank his familly would be destroyed because Skyler would never forgive Walt that. It would be same for Skyler if Gus killed Hank or nazis. It's all Walt killing Hank for her.</div>How would Gus killing the Nazis be a bad thing? and Walt did not kill Hank, Jack did. </div> <p>I mean it's same for Skyler if Hank was killed by Gus or nazis, from her point of view it's Walt who killed him. Yes, Walt did not kill Hank, Jack did, but Skyler or Walt Jr still blame Walt. Have you watched end of the show? </p>
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<p>No, watch that episode again. After that confronation with Gus Walt is so teriffied for his family that he is consider to call Ed, vacuum repair guy. But he fails because Skyler gave money to Ted.
</p><p>During the show Walt always eliminated all who became threat to him or his familly. If Gus killed Hank his familly would be destroyed because Skyler would never forgive Walt that. It would be same for Skyler if Gus killed Hank or nazis. It's all Walt killing Hank for her.
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<p>You forgot that Gus was about to kill Hank and threatened Walt not to kill only him but his whole family, even including baby Holly if Walt interferes. Hank's death by Gus would bring same consequences to Walt as it did later on. Plus, he coudn't ignore threats.
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<div class="quote">Polisbil wrote:
Unfortunatly, Hank will not return, if there is a slight chance he could, because Jack shot him in the head, which kills zombies, but however walt and the supremacists (not Jack) may return.</div> <p>Hope to see them in Season 4! </p>
Unfortunatly, Hank will not return, if there is a slight chance he could, because Jack shot him in the head, which kills zombies, but however walt and the supremacists (not Jack) may return.</div> <p>Hope to see them in Season 4! </p>
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<div class="quote">Meth head wrote:
<p>And if it is real, and in post production: well, then that would mean Aaron Paul is no longer involved in it, Shooting is over. He was shooting Need for Speed at the same time he was working on BB?
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<p>I've answered you that one before, you obviously doesn't read me: BB ended in march 2013 and same month Aareon Paul started to shoot Need for Speed. You can those dates at Aaron Paul's Twitter page here:
</p><p>https://twitter.com/aaronpaul_8
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Aaron Paul <span class="username js-action-profile-name" style="font-size:12px;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;"><span style="color:rgb(187,187,187);">@</span>aaronpaul_8</span>12 Mar<p class="js-tweet-text tweet-text" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:18px;"><span style="color:rgb(102,181,210);">#</span>BreakingBad The end is near. <span class="invisible" style="font-size:0px;line-height:0;">http://</span>instagr.am/p/WxlKLoOIFK/<span class="invisible" style="font-size:0px;line-height:0;"> </span></p>
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Aaron Paul <span class="username js-action-profile-name" style="font-size:12px;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;"><span style="color:rgb(187,187,187);">@</span>aaronpaul_8</span>17 Mar<p class="js-tweet-text tweet-text" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:18px;">Just got home from the Breaking Bad wrap party and I'm pretty sad at the moment. I'm so thankful for every moment. I love you all.</p>
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Aaron Paul <span class="username js-action-profile-name" style="font-size:12px;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;"><span style="color:rgb(187,187,187);">@</span>aaronpaul_8</span>17 Mar<p class="js-tweet-text tweet-text" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:18px;">New Mexico has officially declared march 16th to be Breaking Bad day. Thank you New Mexico for all of the amazing memories! I will miss you.</p>
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Aaron Paul <span class="username js-action-profile-name" style="font-size:12px;direction:ltr;unicode-bidi:embed;"><span style="color:rgb(187,187,187);">@</span>aaronpaul_8</span>29 Mar<p class="js-tweet-text tweet-text" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:18px;">Just landed in San Francisco and now heading to Mendocino to start rehearsals for Need For Speed. I hope they have my Bushmills at the bar.</p>
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<p>It coudn't be. Because of hundred people involved in that movie. Because all of others, thousands and thousands, in hollywood film industry, who would know that "Need for Speed" is non-existent project and talk about it. You know, people want money and want project, and when they see some project announced they try to be involved and pull their strings and connections by people they know.
</p><p>So no, it's not a spoof. It just looks like spoof to you, because you never heard of "Need for Speed" before or played any of those 20 games around.
</p><p>You are constrantly talking about things that are simply impossible to fake. When someone cancel series it's really impossible to continue even if all actors are available for work, which they are not, some of them immediately signed long-term contracts which would exiried in 8 or so years. But, even if they didn't, mere fact their contract is now canceled and show wants them again would motivate all those people to ask incredible amout of money. All those people would ask millions and millions of dollars. Which would made it impossible to shoot.
</p><p>Try to live in real word. If some project is on imdb.com it's not spoof.
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<p>As someone said before, what about Gus and his death last season? Wasn't that unrealistic? When was Breaking Bad realistic?
</p><p>I think you are just upset show's over. And want more. You saw magician's last act and now you are feel cheated. Well, there is no real magic. Walt died suprisingly, hiding his wound as he hide his cancer as long as he could. Maybe it wasn't realistic but showed us Walt the way he was and got us. If it was more obvious it wouldn't be surprising. Simple as that.
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<p>"Need for Speed" will be success, by my opinion. Aaron has reputation as a gamer, build up during "Breaking Bad". Remember him playing video games all the time? Fans of "Need for Speed" games will like him... plus, Breaking Bad fans who wanna see "where Jesse went with that car"... it's all about marketing, I'm afraid...
</p><p>And "Better Call Saul" spin off is probably the most they can squeze out of "Breaking Bad" after it's gone. It will be prequel, so chance for cameo apearances of lots of characters now dead, like Gus, Walt, Hank... it could be watchable...
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<p>Jesse got closure. His ending is indirect promotion from next Aaron Paul's project "Need for Speed", adaptation of racing computer game franchise. Aaron started to shoot "Need for Speed" same month "Breaking Bad" shooting ended, so writers were very well aware of the fact he will do that movie and incorporate it in a way in finale script, as tribute to him.
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</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3wtVI-aJuw </p>
</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3wtVI-aJuw </p>
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<p>You never heard of "Need for Speed" On what planet do you live Meth head? It's around like 20 years and it's like 20 racing video games.
</p><p>"Need for Speed" it's not a spoof. It's movie adaptation of those games done by Steven Spielberg's studio. It's in post production. That means it's already shot. It will be realeased in march next year.
</p><p>Breaking Bad is history. Shootings for Breaking Bad ended in march and that very same month Aaron Paul started to shoot "Need for Speed". You can check it at his Twitter account. He twitted every detail about it. When it happened. Long time ago.
</p><p>Why do you think "Need for Speed" is spoof? And "Better Call Saul"?
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