Lalo Salamanca

Instead of how it went in the end of the show with Nacho killing himself and not knowing that Lalo survived?

Like, I feel like it'd be a lot cooler for Nacho to have some sort of face off against Lalo where they settle their unfinished business.

Idk how it would fully work, but I think that they'd face off in the sewer or retirement home, with Hectors life under threat, where he'd then reveal what he did to Hector with the pills, causing Lalo to go in rage and some sort of gun fight, where Nacho would probably die, with some sort of words on how Lalo will die soon or something.

If y'all have any ideas on how it could go then please tell me, i'm very interested

Is Saul Goodman the villain?

I just was thinking that, had Howard left when Lalo first took out the gun, he might have had a pretty good chance of surviving. While it is true that letting a witness go in such a situation is bad, Lalo is already known as a criminal in the US. The only risk is someone finding out that Lalo is at Jimmy's place AT THAT MOMENT, but shooting the gun without the silencer would have caused the same problem.

Therefore, had Howard left the apartment before Lalo attached the silencer, Lalo would have had no option but to let him go as killing him would have been an even bigger risk. Instead, he just had to stand there like an idiot waiting for Lalo to complete his setup.

Now, there were probably debates about this topic, but I am on the opinion that Hector Salamanca and Chuck McGill are two main overarching antagonists of the entire universe.

These two old men have caused almost every single event in the entire saga.

Hector Salamanca

Hector was one of the founding fathers of the Cartel, the patriarch of the Salamanca Family and he made Lalo, Tuco, the Twins and Gustavo Fring into the men who we saw them as in both shows.

He abused his nephews, into becoming ruthless and psychopathic criminals who absolutely care about nobody but the Salamanca Family with Lalo being the most dangerous out of them all.

Although he did it under Eladio's orders, but of course even if Eladio didn't even exist he probaly would've done it either way, but Hector killed Gus' boyfriend which made Gustavo into the cold and calculating man we see in BCS and BB. Now, Gus was already planning to become a kingpin, no doubt about that, but he probably would've been more merciful and far less cruel if Max didn't die.

The Salamanca vs Fring conflict has been the most influential and relevant conflict throughout both shows. This conflict alone caused the lives of numerous people, all because Hector shot Gus' boyfriend, while the Salamanca Family has been responsible for many more atrocities at the hands of his nephews whom were all trained by Hector himself.

However, this is but only the criminal side of the story, let's go to the legal side.

Chuck McGill

It's insane to think about the fact that without Chuck, there would be no Saul Goodman and Heisenberg's Empire wouldn't even exist.

Chuck's inability to forgive Jimmy and see past his brother's chicanerous antics of the past blinded him to the fact that Jimmy tried desperately hard to turn around his life. Jimmy genuinley tried to be a good guy in the beginning, however after HHM rejected him for the second time (thanks to Chuck, again) and realizing that Chuck was behind it all, made Jimmy slip back to his Slippin' Jimmy persona. After Chuck commited suicide after he lost everything, Jimmy slowly broke bad and created a whole new identity in the form of Saul Goodman.

At the same time, Saul teamed up with Mike on several occasions, in the end even hiring Mike as a private investigator and helping Mike's business with Gus (although Saul had no idea who Gus was untill Gustavo died).

How does it all lead to Heisenberg?

Well, both of them are indirectly responsible for Heisenberg. No, this is actually serious. The best way to understand this is to look at BCS seasons 5 and 6, along with Saul's debute episode in Breaking Bad "Better Call Saul."

As I mentioned previously, Hector made Lalo into the man he is and Chuck made Jimmy into Saul. Lalo and Saul meet in BCS season 5 for the first time, when Lalo needs Saul to save Domingo "Krazy-8" Molina from prison, which Saul actually succeeds in.

Lalo later calls Saul to help him avoid imprisonment and Saul eventually bails him out with 7 million dollars. This event made everyone whoever works at the court despise Saul, because they eventually realized that they literally allowed a psychopathic drug lord walk free without a problem and Saul helped him. However, this also earned new clients for Saul as many people in the criminal underworld heard about the story and hired Saul as their lawyer.

This later lead to Saul's business growing big, earning the reputation of Saul Goodman as the CRIMINAL lawyer in Breaking Bad, leading us to Jesse convincing Walt to hire Saul as their lawyer in season 2 which was the start of a chain reaction leading to the Rise and Fall of Heisenberg. Like Jimmy said in "Saul Gone":

"So yeah, I wasn't there when the meth was cook, I wasn't there when it was sold, I didn't witness any of the murders but I damn well knew it was happening! I was more than a willing participant, I was indispensible! I kept Walter White out of jail! I laundered his money, I lied for him, I conspired with him and I made MILLIONS! If he hadn't walked into my office that day, Walter White would've been dead or behind bars within a month... And Agent Schrader and Agent Gomez and whole lot of other people would still be alive... Fact is, Walter White couldn't have done it without me."

I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not nearly as good as everyone is praising it to be. Yes character development is amazing but when you have entire seasons full of just that and nothing else it feels like a waste of time, like you're developing with a character that doesn't do anything significant enough to make you care. Yes, it definitely has it's moments, anything with Lalo and holy shit that Nacho ending was amazing, but other than that the show feels like abunch of mediocre camera panning at sticky-notes and cars to fill up time. There needs to be a balance of character development and action and unfortunately this show -while still a good show- is way too much to one side. The show doesn't even compare to it's precursor Breaking Bad, I think people just say it's close because the trend is to say the show was perfect but it wasn't. Maybe I'm wrong though, just a thought.

Hello guys it's me again groxy

I wanted to ask some questions

What if Lalo Salamanca didn't died in better call Saul and lived in breaking bad show

Now this might include spoiler alert

So here are alternative scenario in breaking bad universe if Lalo didn't died

1. Lalo when tuco died:

So this would make Lalo angry and mad

If his cousin tuco died being killed by Hank

Otherwise he would be take revenge on Hank

Instead of the twins

2. Meeting Walter:

Lalo and Walter never meet each other

Bc he died way before event of breaking bad

If Lalo didn't died he would greet Walter as guest and be nice to Walter but it would go bad

3. Reaction to don eladio's death:

Lalo would be pissed when hearing about don eladio's death and might take down Gus before straight go to hector in hospital

4. Taking care of Hector:

Lalo and tuco are only Salamanca family members to take care of their tio hector Salamanca. But if tuco died while Lalo survived from better call Saul episode.. he would gathering some of the cartels's members to deal with Hank and Walter

After his cousin's death

5. Notice about Walter's business:

Lalo would be at least act normally not much when noticing Walter's business with Jesse Pinkman

Btw Hope this answers

Hey guys! I had a question on my mind while rewatching all of Lalo's scenes throughout Better Call Saul and one thing came to my mind.

I know that Hector is basically responsible for most of the Salamancas turning out to be dangerous criminals, but what if Lalo was already psychopathic even before he met Tio Hector? What if he is the only true psychopath in the Salamanca family while the others are just sociopaths?

The big difference between the two is that sociopaths are made, psychopaths are born. Another big difference is that while sociopaths are just unable to act like everyday humans and people can spot them from miles, psychopaths are able to act charming and they can get close to you with ease.

If you think about each major Salamanca character after this description it's clear that Hector, Tuco and the Twins are sociopaths, while Lalo is a psychopath.

What if Lalo was always psychopathic since birth and Hector just made him more dangerous, eventually introducing him to the Cartel?

What do you think guys?

For me, these 2 events stick out as the most as the most important and influential events for these respective protagonists, hence why we start with these events in the first and second episodes of each series:

1. Walter White learns of his diagnosis of terminal, inoperable lung cancer on his 50th birthday in 2008. This is Walt’s cataylst event, as the decisions he makes and the road he goes down after this event are based on this discovery. Breaking Bad wouldn’t be possible without it.

2. Jimmy McGill is kidnapped and interrogated by Tuco Salamanca after a scam gone wrong in 2002. Tuco’s sheer brutality and intense violence towards the skater twins traumatizes Jimmy, but also serves as an ego-centric discovery moment, as Jimmy talks Tuco out of killing the two. This event gets him into almost immediate business with Nacho, which puts him in hot water, and later puts him in contact with Lalo Salamanca, which obviously leads to his whole world being turned upside down.

There’s also many side characters you can credit with a catalyst or influential event that creates the timeline that they walk down, forming the plot of the Breaking Bad Universe. Mike talks of the day he took his first bribe in the final episode of Better Call Saul, showing us that some are even self aware of their catalyst moment. What are some other examples of character’s beginnings that made them who they are?

SPOILERS FOR BCS AND BB

A lot of people are complaining as to how Lalo Salamanca died in 6x8 in Better Call Saul. One reason as to why people are saying this is because Gus had “plot armor”. I for one find this to be idiotic with all due respect because complaining about plot armor 6 seasons into a prequel makes 0 sense when you think about it. Another reason is because people think Lalo died to easily and it was predictable. While i understand that part of it a little more, after reading many comments and thoughts about this scene, I believe i have a clear explanation as to why they wrote this scene the way they did.

Both Lalo and Gus are clam, calculated, and powerful. That much has been established from the beginning. But both of their deaths to me are a parallel to one and other because they for just a brief moment, forget about who they really are and let the idea of REVENGE take over. Lalo could have killed Gus right then and there, But he didn’t. He let revenge get in the way of his primary goal and got to caught up in the moment. This is a parallel to Gus in 4x13 of BB. He could have killed Hector right then and there, But he didn’t. He had been waiting for that moment for several decades but he got caught up in the moment a little too much before it was too late.

To me, it was a perfect send off to Lalo, while maybe a little predictable, it didn’t matter. Watching it live was spine-chilling and intense to say the least.

Bravo Peter, Vince, and the crew.